JP at gridiron is going to make a link For those interested in tomorrow's mini helmets he also has created a link for the October 15th helmets against Wisconsin with the green helmet and white script STATE.

I understand a lot of your frustration but he is working on these and it takes time and there are supply chain issues but just so you know he's on it and he's aware of tomorrow's home it's and is already working on creating them.

Yet they continue to smell like Number Two.

Just me but this just feels like 1990. We are getting zero chance to win or keep it close. Just like then. Feel like we are getting guys back and will show much better on D and I think we end up running well enough

Is a rebuild or you don't. If you don't I can get why the ones that don't are saying what they're saying. But for the ones that know and still are talking like we have some sort of talent surplus then you're being disingenuous. Look none of us likes losing, but whether it was Mel or some other coach it was going to take time to bring us back to winning at a high level. Of all the guys that transferred out only a handful are even playing D1 ball. That shows you just how bad of shape the program was in when Mel got here. Last year was fun but like it's been said many a time we had the best player in the country that made up for all the short comings and we got lucky with not having a bunch of injuries. That said, we probably won't look like a dominate team again until Mel's high school recruits mature more. We got one class in that are his guys exclusively and a good amount of them are already playing. Remember Comp used to say you lose a game for every freshman that starts. Well we have quite a few that have done that or have been playing meaningful snaps because the upper classmen aren't good. That's going to.come with lumps guys. That's just how it is right now. Not saying don't be mad about losing, I am saying that it was going to be this way no matter who was coaching. At this point I just want to make a bowl and get more practices in so young guys can be more ready and get more same pageness. We saw that the defense was able to get stops yesterday that they hadn't been all year. Let's build on that. Let's get more of the passing game going to supplement until we get the run game more solid. The staff has adequate replacements at positions and I can see incremental improvement as my grandfather likes to say. Just try and be rational with your takes, that's all I ask and hell pick mine apart I'm cool with having this conversation. I believe we all want the sametime and that's us winning.

Anyone interested in going to the game? I have 4 tickets purchased through the MSU ticket office. I have an offer slightly above face, but by a Wolverine. I’ll let them go at face ($155 per) if a Spartan wants them. They are section 13, Row 92, seats 7-10. Will overnight them to you, or you’d need to meet my brother in the Flushing area for in-person pickup.

Lower Bowl Section 135, Row 17, Seats 103 & 104
November 1st
Parking Pass for ramp across from The Breslin Center
Total - $94.
Call or Text 810-813-0241
Grand Blanc Area

How many official visits are we allowed to bring in? Rivals show we have used 38, not sure if that is correct.

Another amazing example of a complete and total lack of self-awareness from the UM Athletic Department and the school it allows to function around it.
Purity is the policy until it impacts the scoreboard.
Bunch of f'ing clowns

1. Michigan stubbornly will try to run the ball and they are very good at it. However, we are deepest and best at defensive tackle especially with Slade back and that is probably the most important ingredient to stopping the run.
2. Thorne has been up and down but he has experience and is capable of a good game, especially if he uses his feet more.
3. Our wide receivers will be the best Michigan has faced so far and they are capable of being difference makers.
4. If we can keep it close, the pressure on Michigan will build during the game.
5. Relatedly, McCarthy has all of the tools but he has not had to perform under pressure and the jury is still out if he can.
On paper and based on what we have seen so far, Michigan should win, but there are reasons to believe.

Where you just entirely blocked out 2019’s 44-10 drubbing?

I literally can’t recall almost anything from that game, the week leading up to it, or its aftermath. Maybe that’s how my brain processes trauma.

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tape your wrists and ankles.

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Question: With Prime Video streaming Thursday night games, I'm wondering who gets the ad revenue in this case. I know Amazon is showing 4 games free, and local markets broadcast over traditional stations. It looks like production is being done by either them or the networks-not sure which..

In thinking about the B1G it's easier to understand as the streaming sources are owned by NBC and CBS. Just curious on how that piece works and how it might play out in the future.

His large picture is in a Spartan uniform. But I wouldn't bother posting for that. Make sure you check the woman in the smaller circle pic on his profile. Classic! She's probably both a Michigan and a Chargers fan! Sorry I don't know how to just post his profile photos.

(Snippet from the WSJ digital)

The USGA and the PGA of America are other powerhouse bodies under scrutiny in the Justice Department Investigation that includes the PGA tour which is Battling Saudi-backed LIV golf circuit.

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ESPN list's the Top 50 transfers. It's an impressive list. Windmom check's in at #21 - the #8 defensive player on the list.

21. Jacoby Windmon, LB
Transferred to Michigan State from UNLV

Not much has gone right for the Spartans this season, as they are 3-4 a year after finishing 11-2, but Windmon has been a bright spot. At one point, he was leading all FBS players in sacks, and he has 5.5 through seven games. He has 37 total tackles, 1 interception and 2 pass breakups, as well.

MSU wins all of these games as underdogs.

• 1984 Yarima and Bobby Morse beat Harbaugh
• 1987 Lorenzo White and MSU beat Bo Schembechler. Defense w/7 interceptions.
• 1990 Unranked MSU goes on the road and beats #1 ranked UM (Highland Hickson was huge)
• 1993 Jim Miller and Mill-The-Thrill Coleman upset UM
• 1995 Tony Banks beats UM at Spartan Stadium on final drive
• 1999 Bill Burke and Plaxico Burress take out Tom Brady/Drew Henson
• 2001 The 1 second game with Jeff Smoker to TJ Duckett
• From 2008-2015 MSU won 7 games out of 8.
• 2017 Lewerke, London have big games in upset
• 2020 Rocky Lombardi and Ricky White...huge upset.
• 2021 Kenneth Walker III goes off for 5 touchdowns

Looks pretty damn good to me.
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Crowell under investigation by MHSAA.

Personally, I think we can do what we did to Wisky. Hold them to a respectable number around 150 - 180 yards. Why? For all the reasons that you cite. Slade and Henderson change the whole scenario along with Windmon and Brule at LB. I have watched the Wisky game a couple times and our D played their best game of the season against a Power 5 opponent.

However, that was just one game. Fingers crossed that we can play at level against U-M.

My sons plays a lot of soccer. Turf is nice, but it pales in comparison to a nice Bermuda grass field. With that said a really nice low cut blue grass is awesome.

I am not sure what type of mix MSU is using n it's football field. I did spend some time on MSU's soccer field this summer and liked the surface there.

Another aspect I think that should be taken into consideration is simply temperature. Turf can get ridiculously hot. Playing on a field with 120 degrees surface temp cannot be healthy.

A couple of articles:

A systematic review published last year evaluated the risk of ACL injuries in football and soccer athletes playing on artificial and natural grass surfaces. The authors found an increased rate of ACL injury in football athletes playing on artificial turf compared with natural grass, but no increased risk in soccer.

Specifically, players have a 28% higher rate of non-contact lower extremity injuries when playing on artificial turf. Of those non-contact injuries, players have a 32% higher rate of non-contact knee injuries on turf and a staggering 69% higher rate of non-contact foot/ankle injuries on turf compared to grass.

Jim Comparoni joins me on the MSU Today podcast to talk about his life and times and the evolution of Spartan Magazine to SpartanMag.com. Listen here and/or here.

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RENTON, Wash. -- Seattle Seahawks coach Pete Carroll and safety Quandre Diggs on Wednesday said they'd like to see a close reexamination of whether NFL stadiums should exclusively use natural grass.

The ongoing conversation about the safety of playing on artificial turf versus natural grass has been raised anew after Seahawks wide receiver DK Metcalf and Los Angeles Chargers cornerback J.C. Jackson suffered knee injuries during Sunday's game at SoFi Stadium, both on noncontact plays.

SoFi Stadium, home of the Chargers and the Rams, uses an artificial surface.

"I think we definitely need to look at this really seriously in the offseason again," Carroll said when asked about the grass-turf debate. "It's been a discussion before. We've got to do what's right, and we've got to do what's safest for the players and we've got to make those choices. I would pound on the drum for that."

Fourteen of the NFL's 30 stadiums use an artificial surface, including the Seahawks' Lumen Field. In September 2020, NFL Players Association president JC Tretter called for all teams to use grass fields to reduce the risk of injury to players. Tretter cited NFL injury data from 2012 to 2018 that showed a 28% higher rate of noncontact lower-extremity injuries on artificial turf as compared to grass.

"I know that there's numbers and there's studies," Carroll said. "You've got to figure out who the study comes from and who's paying for it. There's a lot of stuff here that we've got to figure out. We've got to do the right thing, but we definitely need to keep looking at it, because every now and then, it just feels like something is up, too many guys going down when they're not even touching anybody. So we'll see. The turfs are way better than they used to be and all that kind of stuff, but we've just got to see."

Jackson will miss the rest of the season after rupturing the patellar tendon in his right knee on Sunday.

Metcalf suffered a much less severe injury to his left patellar tendon that won't require surgery. Carroll said Metcalf was feeling "a little better" on Wednesday and was at the Seahawks' morning walk-through but that he wouldn't take part in their afternoon practice. Metcalf's status for Sunday's game against the New York Giants remains up in the air.

Tretter's 2020 call for all teams to use natural grass came after San Francisco 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan complained about the artificial turf at MetLife Stadium, where quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo and defensive end Nick Bosa had recently suffered season-ending knee injuries.

Diggs cited those injuries and the ones on Sunday at SoFi Stadium while expressing his dislike for artificial turf, which he said is firmer and has less give than grass.

"So you see that and you just kind of wonder why can't we have natural grass everywhere," Diggs said. "I love playing in San Francisco and things like that where it's grass and you just go out there and you just go play. Hopefully, we're doing some research on it and seeing what we can do to make things better."

Diggs said grass is "so much better" but acknowledged that players suffer injuries on grass, as well, including his own dislocated ankle and broken fibula last season at the Arizona Cardinals' State Farm Stadium. Diggs said there is variance between the turfs at different stadiums, describing SoFi Stadium's as slick and Lumen Field's as "fine" but "a little more sticky than others." He said his foot got stuck in the turf on a missed tackle two weeks ago in a home game against the Cardinals.

"I know it's hard to upkeep grass, but at the end of the day, we've got to do what's best for this billion-dollar industry, and I think the players are a big part of that," Diggs said. "So maybe we can take some ideas from the players."