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MEN'S BASKETBALL Hidden benefit of winning on Friday...

One idea that I keep coming back to this week is that I really want MSU to win this game for a bit of an unusual reason. Of course, winning is always better than losing in the Big Dance, but this year, more than perhaps ever, I feel that it is very important that this team experience the legendary Izzo "two day tournament prep." For me, the goal since Shilling went down was always just to make the tournament and keep the streak alive. Mission accomplished there, but considering the youth on the squad in general, I think that come next year at this time, the Freshman and Sophomores on the roster could really, really use the experience of the two day prep this year. It is sort of like Bowl Practice is a weird way. Next year's team could be pretty good, and if they find themselves in a 4-5 match-up to make the Sweet 16 (for example) the experience they might gain this year could be invaluable.

Anyway, food for thought.

MEN'S BASKETBALL It is likely MSU will play on Friday

Considering we are starting to run out of guards who can walk, I am totally OK with the loss today. Of course you want to win, but I am already over it. The BTT is a cute little exhibition, but it is essentially meaningless. Purdue is the BT Champ for 2017, no matter what happens on Sunday

That said, in the FYI category, a quick look at the teams on the top lines and the pods for this year's tournament, there is a very good chance MSU will not have to play until Friday. MSU will almost certainly be a 9 or 10-seed and will therefore be in the same pod as the 1- or 2-seed. The geographical preferences and distribution this year is actually really, really simple, so it is not hard to project where teams will wind up. For the projected 1-seeds:

Villanova is going to play in Buffalo (Thursday/Saturday)
UNC is going to play in Greenville (Friday/Sunday)
Kansas is going to play in Tulsa (Friday/Sunday)
Gonzaga is probably going to play in Salt Lake City (Thursday/Saturday)

As for the potential 2-seeds:

Kentucky is going to Indianapolis (Friday/Sunday)
Louisville is going to Indianapolis (Friday/Sunday)
Duke is going to play in Greenville (Friday/Sunday)
UCLA and Oregon will both likely wind up in Sacramento (Friday/Sunday)
Baylor is going to play in Tulsa (Friday/Sunday)

These teams are currently projected as 3-seeds, but I suppose they could make the 2-line:

Florida State and Florida will both likely play in Orlando (Thursday/Saturday)
Arizona is likely to play in Salt Lake City (Thursday/Saturday)

Every year, the 4-seeds basically get the leftover pods, much like picking teams for middle school dodge ball and this year the "left-over" pods are Buffalo (Thursday/Saturday) and Milwaukee (Thursday/Saturday). There is close to 0% change MSU is in a 4/5 seed pod. So, unless MSU draws the 9-seed in Villanova or Gonzaga's bracket, we will see the team again on Friday.

Next great MSU corner from Georgia? (link)

I caught up with former Valdosta State star and CFL corner Cedric Dickerson to learn more about Michigan State commitment Chris Jackson. We had a good talk, and I learned a lot about a young man with a ton of upside. Here is my commitment feature on Jackson.

Cedric Dickerson's cousin Michael Johnson plays defensive end for the Bengals, and Darqueze Dennard speaks very highly of Dantonio and Barnett in terms of his personal develop socially and as a football player.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/next-great-msu-corner-from-georgia-

MEN'S BASKETBALL Check my math, but NW over UM helps with BTT seed

As I look at the standings, it seems like NW's buzzer beater to beat the ****weasels tonight is very helpful for MSU's BTT seeding purposes.

If MSU beat's Maryland, MSU gets the 3-seed most likely and the winner of the Minnesota-Wisconsin game will most likely get the 2-seed.

But, even if MSU loses to Maryland, as long as NW doesn't upset Purdue, MSU is going to wind up in a multiple team tie where we have the tiebreaker advantage. In a three-way tie with Michigan and NW, MSU now would get the highest remaining seed, which would be the 5-seed. Minnesota most likely gets the 4-seed in that scenario. In this case, MSU would need to beat the winner of the 12-13 game (maybe Indiana or Penn State?) in the BTT and that would seem to look up the bid to 100% certainty.

Rocky Lombardi feature (link)

Had hoped to get this posted last night before the hoops game, but didn't. I enjoyed talking with Brad Salem on NSD about Lombardi and the intangibles he brings to the table. Looking back over the some of the lists of quarterbacks Michigan State has had in camp in recent years, it is pretty clear that the Spartans are attracting a lot of talent at the position. When Lombardi worked out for Salem as a junior, he was in a QB group that include that National Top 250 juniors Kasim Hill (Maryland) and Sean Clifford (Penn State).

I love the wrestling background with Lombardi. It speaks to his athleticism given how good he is at it while focusing on that sport part-time. There is a ton of talent nationwide in the 220-pound division, and to be considered Top 10 caliber is impressive.

Jim and I were talking about Lombardi last night, and he made the Bradlee Van Pelt comparison. I think that's a real good frame of reference.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/fierce-competitor-winning-intangibles
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MEN'S BASKETBALL Would 10-8 be enough?

I am one of those guys who really loves bracketology, and now that the calendar has turned to February, we can now start talking a little more seriously about The Tournament. There has been a lot of talk about what record MSU needs to secure a bid this year and extend the streak. On one hand, this talk is a bit silly, as there are so many scenarios that can happen both in the Big Ten and nationwide that making a solid prediction is quite difficult. That said, enough of the schedule has been played that we can start to draw from historical data and the forward looking predictions start to be a little more reliable.

MSU was 8-5 in the preseason, so if MSU goes 10-8 from here on out, that leaves the final record at 18-13 prior to the BTT. Most people on this site state this as the number MSU needs to hit to make the tournament. That is probably true, but as I look at the numbers in more detail, I am a bit nervous about it.

First of all, let’s say MSU actually finishes 9-9 (17-14 prior to the BTT). If we assume that MSU does not win the BTT (in which case this entire discussion is meaningless), MSU would finish the season with 15 loses. If we look back at team record data back to 2011 when the 68-team expansion happened, I cannot find a single example of a team that made the tournament as an at-large bid with 15 losses. I cannot image it happening when fewer teams actually made it, so I think it is safe to say that 9-9 would mean MSU would likely need to win the BTT.

So, let’s say that MSU is 10-8 (18-13), which is only 1 win better than serious danger-time. I pulled some projected data from the Warren Nolan website (I like his data format) and this is also the record he projects for MSU, with a final RPI of 41. MSU would likely draw the #5 seed in the BTT and would need to play the winner of a game against teams like Illinois and Penn State on Thursday (which would be close to must-win) before facing the #4, which right now is most likely Northwestern. Would MSU need to win that one? Maybe not… but I am not sure. If MSU did win that one, it would be off to the semi’s to face (most likely) #1 Wisconsin. At that point, I think MSU is most likely safe.

Historically speaking, MSU’s situation is a bit scary ending the BTT with 14 loses (in the 10-8 scenario). Since 2011, I count 23 High Major teams with 14 losses at the end of conference tournament play. Of those 23 teams, only 3 made the tournament. Ironically, one of those 3 is MSU, back in 2011 (Tennessee and Marquette also both in 2011 were the other 2). The other good news here is that the RPI numbers do favor MSU. Of the 3 teams with 14 loses to make the tournament, the 3 teams that made it were 3 of the 4 teams with an RPI over 65. As a general rule, regardless of record, high major teams with an RPI better than the high 50s are usually safe. So, if the projected RPI of 41 is accurate, MSU would seem to be safe at 10-8, as long as they don’t pick up a bad loss on Thursday in the BTT.

Speaking of bad losses, that brings me to the final metric that worries me: good wins vs. bad losses. This is a tough metric to quantify, but I have always been fond of comparing wins over the RPI Top 50 vs. losses outside of the RPI Top 50 as a solid tournament metric. Now, we could argue for pages about the value of the RPI, but much like the Dow Jones Average, there is a lot of historical data on it, so I will go with that. If we go back to the 3 teams with 14 losses that made the tournament, they all had a lot of Top 50 wins (at least 5). Tennessee in 2011 had 8 Top 50 wins (but also 7 bad losses). This year for MSU, I count only 3 Top 50 wins which are Minnesota (2x) and Northwestern. Wichita State is projected to have an RPI at 53, so that one is close. On the other hand, MSU has 4 bad losses (Northeastern, Penn State, OSU, and IU are all project to finish outside the Top 50.) This assumes that Minnesota does not tank (Warren Nolan also likes them to finish 10-8) and that does not seem like a sure thing to me. This number concerns me.

Now, you could make the argument that MSU could pick up some good wins in the remaining 8 games. True. BUT, we are already assuming that MSU finishes 10-8, meaning we only go 4-4 from here on out. Of the 8 remaining games, only three teams are projected to have an RPI over 50: @Purdue, @Maryland, and Wisconsin. That would be two tough road games and the current first place team. Tricky, at best. The other five games would be considered potential bad losses. So, in order to get to 10-8, MSU would necessarily have a net gain of one bad loss. (For example, 0 good wins and 1 bad loss or 1 good win and 2 bad losses, etc.) As I have mentioned, one scenario is for MSU to make the BTT as the 5-seed and have a shot at NW, but I am not sure that moves the needle much either as a good win. There is also a nightmarish situation where Minnesota tanks and MSU is sitting at 14 losses with only ONE Top 50 win (Northwestern, you know, the only high-major team to never play in March Madness) and 5 bad losses. I don’t think Selection Sunday would be much fun in this scenario, unless you own stock in Maalox.

Even if MSU finishes at 11-7, we could still be in the situation of having almost no good wins and in a 5-12 match-up on Thursday of the BTT. That is a bit scary. Probably OK, but still scary. In this case, the RPI would almost certainly be strong enough to be in the "safe" zone, but a lot of mid-major tournament upsets would still make my collar feel a bit tight.

Hang on folks; it is still going to be a wild ride.

Ron Burton breaks down '17 d-line class

Ron Burton likes his d-line class of Paulino, Panasiuk, and Todd. He expects big things from Panasiuk given his foundation, skillset, and the fact that his brother went through the process last season. He likes the upside of all three guys. He thinks Todd has the ability to develop in the program like Joel Heath.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/signing-day-burton-breaks-down-17-d-line-class


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CJ Hayes article (link)

Here is the Hayes commitment article.

This was very difficult for Hayes and his family. His father Carl teared up while we were on the phone. It was emotional to decommit from Purdue. They prayed about it last night, and kept on coming back to the fact that Michigan State was his dream school. This is what they've worked for.

Here is my article.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/hayes-headed-to-dream-school-

Backstory on Fullback commit Max Rosenthal (link)

Here is the story I wrote on preferred walk-on Max Rosenthal. I think he's got a lot of potential at fullback, and I think he may end up being a high performing preferred walk-on in the mold of Todd Anderson. Rosenthal didn't want to elaborate on who offered, and pulled later in the process, so I didn't press him. He did say that the FBS offers from Bowling Green and Air Force were committable, as were the FCS offers at the time of his commitment to Michigan State. I'm guessing that the Air Force scholarship money was based on Academics. The kid had a lot of interest/offers from Ivy League so I'm guessing that he had the grades to pay for a good chunk of his education.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/the-backstory-on-fullback-commit-max-rosenthal

Commitment Feature on DeAri Todd (link)

I caught up with Clearview Coach Mike Collier to talk about Michigan State d-line commitment DeAri Todd. He talked about Todd's upside, his potential at the next level, and his player's patience during the recruiting process. This is a high character kid that works his tail off. I also think that he has good upside. His Coach says that he is 6-3.5, 250 and still growing. I think the fact that he plays basketball is a big positive. I always feel that way with D-Linemen.

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/hs-coach-expects-todd-to-reach-potential-on-d-line-at-msu

MEN'S BASKETBALL Handicapping the Tournament

Just out of curiosity, what everyone’s current level of confidence that MSU will make the tournament? After two straight losses, the pessimist crowd is out in force, but my honest answer to that question is about 75% that MSU makes the tournament. Why? Well…

1) I am an optimist.

Some of us are “optimists” and some of us are “pessimists” and pretty much the only thing non-MSU that we have in common is that we all believe that we are “realists.”

2) We have seen everyone on this roster play well at some point.

On some level, the team actually seems ahead of schedule to me. I knew back in October that with the number of young players and the front court injuries that this year could get real, real ugly. But, honestly the Freshman have been better than I expected. All four have played well to very well at some point this year. So has Tum, and so have Harris, McQuaid, Goines, Ellis, and even Ahrens and Van Dyke. The problem is that we have only seen about 1 or 2 guys play well at a time over the last few games (and really only on the offensive end). If only Bridges shows up or if only Harris shows up, we just aren’t that good. But, if 3-4 guys play to their potential, this team is pretty dog-gone good. They just haven’t for a week or so, and now some people seem to think that they just always sucked… and that is simply not true.

3) We have a HOF coach

This January swoon is really not that strange for a Coach Izzo team. It is all a part of the “30 games, get your crap together” process. So, a big part of me thinks that this is just the same movie that we see every year, and we basically know where it ends: at some point the train will emerge from the tunnel and it will be carrying a pretty good basketball team. But, the scenario is a bit different with all the young players. That part definitely is new, and the usual formula might fail in this case. That is where my 25% concern comes in. This IS uncharted territory, but we DO have a master navigator. I still have faith he can chart a course to the tournament.

4) The resume is… not terrible

Everyone knows that Izzo schedules a meat grinder in the fall, and the Duke, Kentucky, Arizona, and Baylor losses can all to some degree can be forgiven. The NE loss was without Miles entirely, and the PSU loss was with a not quite 100% Miles. As for OSU and IU on the road? Those games were likely viewed to be Ls back in the fall, even though both teams have underachieved. Road conference games are always tough. As for good wins… well, Wichita State is still a decent win, and the 2 wins over Minnesota (with an RPI of 18 right now, best in the B1G) are solid, as is that win over Northwestern (who, incidentally, leads the B1G with FOUR road wins). So, there is no huge, marquee win, but the resume is not a disaster either. It would help if the Gophers and Wildcats keep winning, though...

In all honestly, the thing that worries me the most right now is actually the fact that Hollis is the committee chairman. If MSU is on the bubble, he / the committee might feel that including MSU would be “bad optics.” I would like to think that Izzo could get the benefit of the doubt anyway, but if things get tight on Selection Sunday, I think Hollis’ position could be more of a hindrance than a help.

So, I am not sure which games MSU will win and how many wins are needed to make the tournament, but I think we will get there. Certainly history shows that more than 12 losses or so is likely in the danger zone, but at the end of the day, I think the streak will continue.
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MEN'S BASKETBALL A Few Early B1G Observations

I was just poking around the internet, looking at various things and I have a couple interesting observations about the Big Ten landscape:

1) As pointed out elsewhere, ESPN and pretty much everyone else has MSU solidly in the Tournament at around an 8 or 9 seed. In general the Bracket Project is a great reference for this

One stat I like to track throughout the season is the "+/-" for each team, which is this context is road wins (+) minus home losses (-). At the end of the year, this translates to games above or below 500, but it normalizes things a bit at earlier points in the season. The +/- rating highlights some interesting facts:

2) The only team currently with a +/- over 1 is oddly enough, Northwestern, who has 3 road wins (at PSU, Nebraska, and Rutgers) and 1 home loss (to Minnesota). Incidentally, the Bracket Project also has the Wildcats in the tournament as an 8-ish seed. I am sure that most here realize that the Wildcats are the ONLY power 5 program to have never played in the NCAA Tournament.

3) Five teams have a +/- of 1: MSU, Wisconsin, Maryland, Minnesota, and Nebraska.

4) Only two teams are at -2 in +/-: Rutgers and Indiana. But, Indiana is also currently an 8 or 9 seeds by most accounts.

5) Despite Wisconsin's 14-3 record, they are 0-3 against the RPI Top 50. Only Rutgers shares the distinction of no Top 50 wins and only Iowa and OSU have just 1.

6) If one were to rank Big Ten teams by RPI right now, it would be an odd list: Minnesota (14), Maryland (22), Purdue (32), Wisconsin (37), MSU (39), Northwestern (41), Illinois (44), and Nebraska (46) are the teams in the Top 50. Illinois in the Top 50 is odd, and since MSU already holds wins over Minnesota and Northwestern, if helps us if they keep winning.

In general, good luck sorting this conference out this year. It is going to continue to be a wild ride.

My 3-2-1 from Thursday's Dantonio press conference

The 3-2-1: On Winter Football
Jim Comparoni | Editor

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EAST LANSING - Three things we learned during Mark Dantonio’s press conference on Thursday, two questions and one prediction:

THREE THINGS WE LEARNED:

1. No staff changes.

Dantonio indicated near the end of the season that there would be no shake-ups on his coaching staff. He reiterated it on Thursday.

“In terms of our staff, there will be no changes made on my behalf on our staff,” he said. “It's the same staff we won the Big Ten championship with that everybody was celebrating last year. It's the same staff that won the Rose Bowl basically, same staff that went to the Cotton Bowl that had record-setting numbers in '14, and et cetera, et cetera.

“It's all inclusive. Everything is all inclusive. Doesn't mean we fire players or anything like that if they miss a tackle. So there will be no changes in that area. There will be no changes in terms of who's coaching what.”

My Take: This news didn’t surprise anyone, but it set off a storm of arguments on sports talk radio, and internet message boards, including SpartanMag’s Underground Bunker.

My opinion? Michigan State spent 40 years failing to establish a consistent, championship-level program. Dantonio finally got it done, with some high peaks between 2009 and 2015.

This season was horrible. Horrible players, horrible playing, horrible coaching, horrible results.

Do I believe MSU needs to sweep out some coaches, despite the fact that they are the only coaches who have ever won consistently at a championship level at Michigan State in my lifetime? Or am I more inclined to look at Dantonio’s list of 15 reasons why 2016 went down the drain and give them time to map out some solutions?

I’ll opt for the latter.

Forty years of football purgatory in East Lansing should help us realize we’re not talking about the Brazilian national soccer team here. Winning at Michigan State is not easy. And when a group of coaches has bucked a 40-year trend, I would be hesitant to dismiss the lead elements that ushered in the legendary successes of 2013, ’14 and ’15.

I think the wise choice is to stay the course and if you have another bad year in 2017, then you take a closer look at major alterations. But if you make major alterations now and have a bad year in 2017, then you might as well be Rich Rodriguez.

When Dantonio won 40 out of 45 games, he credited chemistry, continuity and senior leadership as the main building blocks of success. Let him try to rebuild with those three elements again, with continuity being the applicable piece in this argument.

Some people think the program is dying and/or dead. Those people might be proven right. But changing jockeys right now isn’t the right move toward repairing things. The right move is to first try to repair with the people who built it in the first place, if in fact the lead architect (Dantonio) believes that’s the right path.

He knows more about this building stuff than we do. It would be ridiculous for me to pretend I knew of a better way.

Most people that I talk to that want sweeping changes have no names in mind for successors. They just want change, almost for the sake of change, even if its a change to the nameless and faceless. These are emotional reactions, not practical ones.

Do I think coaches have been told within the walls of the Skandalaris Center that they had better damn well pick it up a few notches? Yes I do. Do I think there are coaches on staff that need to do a better job? Absolutely.

Does Dantonio think they’ll come through? Yes he does. I can’t argue with that, right now.

2. Montae Nicholson has not yet made a decision about next year.

Sources have told SpartanMag.com that Nicholson, a junior safety, is considering forgoing his senior year in order to enter the NFL Draft.

I asked Dantonio about Nicholson's status following Thursday's press conference.

Dantonio told me: “Like all of our juniors, they're getting evaluated. They're going through that pre-evaluation process with the NFL. They put their name in there to see what comes back. Everybody's done that. Shilique (Calhoun) did that, Connor (Cook) did that. They get evaluated and and wait and see what comes back."

Nicholson has not made a final decision?

"No final decision," Dantonio said.

Would Dantonio welcome him back in 2017?

"Absolutely," Dantonio said.

Nicholson started as a sophomore and junior at Michigan State in 2015 and '16, losing his starting status briefly in 2015 due to performance issues before regaining the job in the final month of the season. He started 10 games this fall, missing two games with an arm injury.

Nicholson ranked second on the team in tackles with 86.

3. Dantonio say sophomore Brian Lewerke is man to beat for the quarterback job with the completion begins (or resumes) in the spring (story by Paul Konyndyk).

3a. Dantonio penned a list of 15 main reasons for the failures of 2016.

“There are tangible things and there are intangible things,” he said.

Most of them are areas that were discussed and covered during the season. He listed only 10 of them on Thursday:

1. Turnover margin.

“Turnover margin usually allows you to win or make up deficiencies that you have,” he said. “We've led the Big Ten in turnover margin the last three years. Not this year. We ended up minus five.

2. Shortage of sacks.

Michigan State ranked dead last in the Big Ten in sacks with only 11. The 13th-place team in the Big Ten (Rutgers) had 21, dwarfing the last-place Spartans in this category.

“I think one out of every six sacks in the NFL results in a caused fumble,” Dantonio said. “Certainly makes it more difficult to move down the field. Sacks create pressure. It's not that we weren't there. We're there sometimes but guys get out of sacks or whatever the situation.”

3. Allowing big plays.

“That (lack of pressure on the QB) lead, I believe, to the big plays down the field defensively,” Dantonio said. “If you get (the quarterback) off the dime, off their intended area that they want to pass from, their percentages go down, way down. But if you allow the quarterback too much time or if you let him get out of trouble, if the quarterback creates or makes big plays down the field or whatever the case, you suffer.”

4. Red zone scoring.

“Missed opportunities, kicking too many field goals,” Dantonio said. “We’re leading in every football game, and inevitably when you look at them, too many missed opportunities in the red zone. You look at Michigan, at the Penn State game, too many opportunities missed in the red zone, and kicking field goals or not getting anything out of them.

“You look at the red zone at the two-point conversion against Ohio State, opportunity to at least go ahead in the game with 4:41 to go. But missed opportunities.”

5. Lack of senior productivity.

“You've got to ask yourself the intangible things: Did our seniors have their very, very best years? And that's up and down,” Dantonio said. “You have to have your best year as a senior if you're going to have a group of people moving forward to create great moments.

“Every football team is usually a senior-led team. I point down the road (at Michigan) and their seniors are having the best years of their careers. And you see the results of that. And that's a positive for them.”

6. Failing to win the fourth quarter.

“I don't think we ever stopped competing, but we didn't win the fourth quarter,” Dantonio said. “That's a tangible aspect of it. We were leading every game, either at halftime or at some point in the game, sometimes at the end of three quarters, but we didn't win the fourth quarter.”

Dantonio didn’t want to drag on and tell us all 15.

But he briefly mentioned:

7. Technique.

8. Leadership.

“You've got to have productivity to be a leader,” Dantonio said. “So as you go through this, your quarterback is knocked out of the game, with a foot, missed two games. We had some changes in there, giving other people some opportunities and he (Lewerke) did an outstanding job, an outstanding job in terms of leadership.

“You got our linebacker, Riley Bullough, who is out for three weeks with a fractured scapula, and then he comes back and he plays his first game and in the first quarter gets a helmet to helmet shot (and is ejected). So he's out basically four games. Those are tough situations. Both those guys raised up and led.


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“Our senior group, guys are hurt, and they've got to have their best year but they’re in and out throughout the entire time.

“When you lose a football game, it's tough on everybody. It's tough on our captains. It's tough on your senior leadership. They did a tremendous job. If you're at practice every practice, they did a tremendous job. Practices are very competitive, they were very energetic. Had some fights. It's all good.

“So we got ourselves ready to play and our guys continued to work.”

Dantonio tried to end on a positive when talking about leadership, but clearly felt the team as a whole was running short on that intangible.

9. Leadership at the coaching level.

“It starts with me, but it trickles all the way down through our football program,” he said. “When you talk about leadership, you're talking about the head football coach, too. I have to walk in there every day, too, and make sure that I'm doing the best job that I can as well as our coaches.

“So we did what we could do. At the end of the day you’ve got to win. We had opportunities to win in a lot of games.”

10. Injuries.

The Spartans had 44 different starters in 2016. There weren’t a lot of season-ending injuries, but there was a rash of short-term injuries which upset the continuity of position groups.

“Quarterbacks obviously are a big part of everything and that's not to lay everything on our quarterback position, but all you’ve got to say is we played three quarterbacks this year. What would you expect? And all three of them were injury-related. Somebody got knocked out here, knocked out there. So that's not occurred since we've been here.

“We were hit with defensive linemen last year with four guys leaving due to graduation. And then we lost four other guys. You lose eight defensive linemen, what do you expect?

“Malik (McDowell) struggled with injuries all season long. (Demetrius) Cooper had injuries as well, so you’ve got guys that were not playing at their fullest. Eight of them weren't there.

Ed Davis had a knee surgery in May. He was rehabbing back from that. He never really could get back to what his former self was. And he was a phenomenal football player.”

He didn’t mention losing defensive starters Vayante Copeland and Jon Reschke to season-ending injuries.

“You’ve got to be able to maintain that excellence that we've had there,” Dantonio said. “There's a lot of positions that are like that.”

TWO QUESTIONS:

1. What is being done RIGHT NOW to begin to fix the problems of 2016?

“The basic thought process is that we'll restart this,” he said. “We're using this time right now to basically identify our leaders on our football team, establish who they are, look at our personnel, make sure our personnel is set in terms of what we need to continue to recruit, what we have coming back, things of that nature. Develop our chemistry, our attitude, our discipline, refocus on that aspect of it.”

Attitude and chemistry are things that are developed behind the scenes. Coaches swear that if attitude and chemistry aren’t good, and - worse yet - if they are poor, then they will manifest themselves in poor play at the line of scrimmage, in the backfield, in the secondary, on special teams, basically everywhere on the field.

Dantonio didn’t acknowledge problems with chemistry or attitude DURING the season. And Dantonio didn’t directly acknowledge it as a problem during Thursday’s press conference. But now that the season is over, his stating that there is a need to refocus on the development of chemistry, attitude and discipline speaks volumes.

Dantonio used to say MSU won with people, won largely with team-oriented intangibles. In 2016, the Spartans didn’t merely lack in those areas, sources say that Michigan State was flat-out bankrupt in those areas - and Dantonio’s listing this category high on the winter season to-do list is further indication that much work is indeed needed in this area.

2. What about changes in x’s and o’s, and on-field schematic philosophy?

Dantonio said those things are under review.

“That's always the big question: Do you change something that's been very successful for the sake of change or do you change something that needs to be changed because it wasn't successful this year or do you change something because it just needs to be changed?” Dantonio said. “And so there's a combination probably of all that as we move forward.

“I think the most important thing is that we identify problems, we focus on the solution, we solve the problem. And that's what we've always done.

“When you look at techniques, when you look at certain schemes, are you benefitting from the scheme that you're currently running whether it's defensively, offensively or special teams? Do you have to change things?

“All these things go into play when you're sitting here as we're sitting here. And that's why we need to take a very pragmatic approach to what's happened and recalculate where we're going and get there. And that's what we'll do.

“We look at our scheme, what we're doing, self-scout ourselves, self-scout our opponents, look at some of the things that we have dealt with this past season, what we can benefit from looking at, learn from, those type of things, and then move forward.”

This type of self-scout usually takes place after the bowl game. And it usually takes place with fewer crises to solve.

“So we are starting earlier than we normally start,” Dantonio said. “Usually we start doing these type of things in February with a little bit more smiley faces around us, but here we are in December dealing with this. So it's part of the situation moving forward.

“We have young players. We have good football players on this football team. We got people we can identify as play-makers on this team. We just have got to grow. Growth took place last year and it'll continue to take place.

“We've taken a step back. Now what's very important to me is that we put our foot in the ground and plant our feet in the ground and drive forward, and that's what we will do.

“And, to be honest with you, I've taken the approach of hey I'm a new coach coming in here, gonna fix the things that other guy did last year. And that's how I'm going to take the approach. I'm going to take the approach that I'm going to get this fixed. And this will be fixed.”

ONE PREDICTION:

1. A lot of sources have indicated that Nicholson is leaning heavily toward forgoing his senior year and opting for the NFL Draft. But I could see in Dantonio’s eyes on Thursday that the head coach wants him back. I’m not an NFL scout, but I think Nicholson could take a big jump with one more year in the program. I think Dantonio wants to get through to Nicholson and bring him back and I suspect that ultimately Nicholson will listen to Dantonio, after he receives what I am guessing will be a less-than-stellar review from NFL scouts, and return for his senior year. Just a hunch.

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Can MSU 'move forward as a program' against Ohio State?

Can MSU 'move forward as a program' against Ohio State?
Paul Konyndyk | Associate Editor

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Mark Dantonio views Michigan State's home finale against Ohio State as an opportunity to move the program forward amidst at disappointing '16 season.

Michigan State hasn’t been a three-touchdown underdog in a game against Ohio State since 1998, which also happens to be the last time a sub .500 Spartan ballclub beat the Buckeyes in a game with national implications.

“We've always gone into a game planning to win,” Mark Dantonio said during his weekly press conference on Tuesday, “and we need to understand the things we need to do to win a football game and we're going to play, in this conference, you are usually going to compete at the highest level pretty much week in and week out."

Dantonio served as defensive backs coach under Nick Saban in ’98 when Michigan State shocked the No. 1 ranked Buckeyes in Columbus.

“(We) didn't play a bowl game here and we went down and played the No. 1 team at Ohio Stadium, at Ohio State, and won,” Dantonio said. “Didn't go to a bowl game that year. Everybody seems to remember it, so, I guess that's something. But, I think the biggest thing is, is playing the next game and always getting ready for your next challenge, and that's this one, and it's a big challenge that we have standing in front of us.”

More recently, Michigan State has won two of the four meetings with the Buckeyes during Urban Meyer’s tenure as head coach.

“We’ve got 28 players from Ohio on our football team as well as quite a number of coaches with an Ohio background, so a little bit of extra motivation on this end,” Dantonio said. “We've played them well the last couple years, the last four years, 2-2 against them.”



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Tailback LJ Scott (right) is one of 28 Ohioans on Michigan State's 2016 roster.
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It remains to be seen whether this Michigan State team possesses the mental toughness, grit, and playmaking ability on both sides of the ball displayed by the Spartans in recent wins over the Buckeyes.

“Players made plays in the game,” Dantonio said. “In both respects, the ‘13 game and ‘15 game, our guys came ready to play. They were focused. Other team was focused -- Buckeyes were focused, too. I thought we played well. We made plays on the field, big plays in the game. Last year, (Aaron) Burbridge making a big catch a couple times, big runs, defensively played very well. They are a tough team, very tough, difficult team to prepare for offensively and defensively. They bring a lot to the table, but, you know, if you're playing well -- if you're going to win this conference, you got to play well against the good teams in this conference, and traditionally they've been very, very good.”

During a season filled with disappointment, however, a win over Ohio State would help move the program forward and build momentum for the future.

“We've led in every football game, and every football game, I think has been pretty competitive,” Dantonio said. “We are where we are, but this is a way to move forward, you know, as a program. So, you know, you got to just -- you got to get yourself ready to play at highest level.”

Senior Send-off

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Michigan State seniors like Demetrious Cox are hoping for a memorable final game at Spartan Stadium.

Saturday’s game will be the last played in Spartan Stadium by members of Michigan State’s senior class. Dantonio is grateful for the contribution his program has received over the years from RJ Shelton, Riley Bullough, Tyler O’Connor, and other seniors.

“They've done a great job,” Dantonio said. “The guys who have been with us, they all have two Big Ten championship rings, they all have a Cotton Bowl ring. They've all been to the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl, then a Rose Bowl and two Cotton Bowls, and one playoffs, so they've had distinguished careers.

“When you get to this year, high expectations, a lot of things enter into where we're at. We won't go into that. But obviously didn't end the way they wanted it to end, but their attitude and their passion for the game and their commitment, really has allowed us to move forward every single game. Every single practice, whether you practicing last year, getting ready to be 10-1, really -- after this week, we were 10-1 last year -- or this week, the practice is really, if you walk out on the practice field, they're no different. The mentality, the effort, the -- the intangible things, there's no difference, and that's senior leadership, and that's just senior interaction with our young players. So they've done a great job. I know it's been a disappointing year. I know it's -- in a lot of ways, you can look back and say we should have won this game, that game, this game, that game, but we are just sort of where we're at. We have to deal with that and hopefully this period of time in their life helps strengthen them for later disappointments in their life where they have challenges in their life and have to be able to go through them in order to come out the back end.”

McDowell's status uncertain
Junior defensive tackle Malik McDowell was not listed on Tuesday’s depth chart. McDowell, who did not play against Rutgers last weekend, has been out since suffering an ankle injury during the second half of Michigan State’s road loss to Illinois.

“Right now, he's probably out, but we'll see,” Dantonio said. “I don't want to list him as number two, so that's why we listed him as such. So, he'll either start for us or be able to play. We'll see as the week goes.”

Sixth-year senior Brandon Clemons has played more on the defensive line than offensive line as a two-way player this season. Against the Buckeyes, however, the versatile senior will start at right guard, as Michigan State shuffles it’s front five following an injury to Tyler Higby last weekend.

“He played right guard last year against the Buckeyes as well, so, he's played in games,” Dantonio said. “I mean, he's been a guy that played in a lot of football games for us, and he’s started in games for us offensively and defensively. So you think a guy like that has been extremely valuable and really has been totally unselfish in the way he's gone about his business.”

Kaleel Gaines sighting

He played the very last series of the game, and got into a mild dust-up along the Rutgers sideline on the last play of the game.

But he's still in the program, which is positive.

I expected more (anything?) from him this year. He wasn't far behind Tyson Smith and Darian Hicks coming out of the spring. I'm not sure where he went, but he has played close to zero this year.

When the coaches moved Corley and Layne to CB, they said an injury problem was part of the reason. We can assume they were talking about Hicks, and Copeland, and Tyson Smith. Might Gaines have been hurt, too, behind the scenes? We don't know right now. Will try to find out.

Dantonio Explains Game Decisions

Dantonio explains game decisions
Jim Comparoni | Editor

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EAST LANSING - The public and pundits might have thought it was a foregone conclusion that Michigan State would get drilled by Michigan, Saturday at Spartan Stadium, but Michigan State players and coaches had other ideas.

And when the final seconds counted down on a 32-23 loss to Michigan, the Spartans didn’t feel any better about proving that they could hang with the No. 2-ranked team in the nation as a 24-point underdog, and that the Spartans might have been a couple of bounces or decisions away from having a chance to pull out one of the biggest upsets of the college football season.

The loss stung the Spartans as if Michigan State was the team expected to win by three touchdowns. Michigan State loses possession of the Paul Bunyan trophy.

“It doesn’t feel good especially this being my last time,” said senior linebacker Riley Bullough. “But I have faith in the guys next year to bring it back to E.L. next year and keep it here.”

Michigan State falls to 2-6. The Spartans must win their last four games in order to qualify for automatic bowl eligibility. There could still be a chance to earn a bowl bid with a 5-7 record, if there is a shortage of bowl-eligible teams.

Michigan State rushed for 217 yards against the nation’s top-ranked defense, and led 7-0 after a muscular opening drive. In the second half, Michigan State came back from a 30-10 deficit to cut the score to 30-23 after freshman quarterback Brian Lewerkeconnected with Monty Madaris for a 20-yard TD pass with 7:30 remaining, and Tyler O’Connor found Donnie Corley for a 5-yard strike with :01 second left in regulation.

A failed two-point conversion on an option pitch resulted in a scoop-and-score return for Michigan’s Jabrill Peppers, creating the final margin of victory.

“I’m going to keep scratching for every inch and every point that we can possibly get,” said head coach Mark Dantonio. “So when there’s :01 second on the clock, we’re going to go for two, even if it’s a mental gain to kick the thing and lose by six points. At that point in time, we’re probably losing the game. I don’t see any foreseeable way that we can scoop up the ball because it’s not legal to scoop up a ball and score on an on-side kick. So we went for two. It’s unfortunate it ended in a big celebration for them. But it happened.”

Michigan State’s defense was faulty again, allowing the Wolverines to roll up 27 points in the first half without having to punt.

“With the success that we’ve had around here, this is not an easy pill to swallow,” said Spartan co-defensive coordinator Harlon Barnett. “We’re always expecting to win. I’m always expecting to win.”

The Spartans’ chances of victory took a severe blow when Michigan stopped Michigan State on fourth-and-goal from the 2-yard line with 6:47 left in the third quarter. MSU trailed 27-10 at the time and desperately needed to cut the lead to 10 points.

Michigan State tried four run plays from inside the 3-yard line following a pass interference on third down from the 9-yard line.

The Spartans couldn’t budge the Wolverine defensive front on any of the four runs.

The Spartans were also stopped on fourth-and-one in the first quarter, on the Spartans’ second possession of the game, at the Michigan 38-yard line with the score tied 7-7.

“Fourth-and-one, when we go for it, you’ve got to get one yard,” Dantonio said. “I don’t care what we draw up; I don’t care what they draw up, you’ve got to be able to get one yard.

“Later on in the third quarter, when we’re first-and-goal at the 2, you’ve got to go for the touchdown and try to cut it to 10.

“Not to sell our football team short, but we have to be able to process it and win in those situations, win the inches.”

The Spartans not only ran it four straight times with L.J. Scott from inside the 3-yard line, with none of the plays coming close to creasing the end zone. The first play, on first-and-goal from the 2-yard line, lost a yard. The second nudged the ball back to the 2. They couldn’t get any closer and Scott was stopped on a sweep to the outside on fourth down.

Michigan State lined up its jumbo package for each of those plays, with tight ends, a fullback and no wide receivers. That package had worked well earlier in the game in helping the Spartans rush for 114 yards in the first half.

“We have it first-and-goal on the 2-yard line, hey we’re running the ball,” Dantonio said. “We ran the ball for two hundred and some yards (217). L.J. (Scott) has 139 yards. It’s first-and-goal at the 2. My take is that we’ve got to get the inches. Obviously I was wrong but I’m saying, ‘Direct runs. Direct downhill runs.’”

That’s what Dantonio was telling co-offensive coordinator and play caller Dave Warnerduring the series and prior to it, and the head coach stood behind that decision after the game.

“Ever since 2007 when Jehuu Caulcrick had 22 touchdowns, that’s what we do," Dantonio said. "Now, you want to slick ‘em a little bit? We can do that as well. But that was my decision and I’ll take the heat for it.”

Michigan’s Amara Darboh caught eight passes for a career-high 165 yards, and De'Veon Smith ran for two touchdowns.

The Wolverines (8-0, 5-0) beat the Spartans for only the second time in the last nine meetings. Michigan avenged last year's loss to Michigan State, in which the Spartans scored the winning touchdown on the final play when the Wolverines botched a punt.

Michigan State went on to a Big Ten title and a national semifinal appearance after that dramatic victory.

Wilton Speight threw for 244 yards for Michigan.

Three Spartan quarterbacks saw action. Starter Tyler O’Connor was 7 of 14 for 84 yards with 1 TD and an interception late in the first half, which set up Wolverine field goal prior to halftime.

Lewerke was 6-of-10 for 100 yards with 1 TD. He was sacked on a failed fourth-and-five situation at the Michigan 13-yard line with 1:46 remaining. Lewerke had to be helped off the field after that play, favoring a knee or ankle. He didn’t return for the final series. Michigan State did not provide an update on Lewerke’s health.

Damion Terry had one series, early in the fourth quarter, and drove the Spartans to the Michigan 8-yard line. However, a fumbled option pitch moved the ball to the 17-yard line. Terry went down with an unknown injury when he was hit while throwing an incompletion on third down. Then Michael Geiger, who hit a 52-yard field goal in the first half, missed from 34 yards.

“Too many missed opportunities when you get right down to it,” Dantonio said.

Dantonio: 'Yeah, we can win'

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Dantonio: 'Yeah, we can win'
Jim Comparoni | Editor

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EAST LANSING - Mark Dantonio has met the Michigan challenge head-on during his 10 years at Michigan State.

He has to feel good about the chapters his teams have carved into the annals of this rivalry. His 10th meeting with the Michigan, coming up at noon on Saturday, figures to be the toughest challenge the Wolverines have mounted against him. Once again, Dantonio is respecting the task, but not discounting his team’s chances of surprising the No. 2-ranked Wolverines on Saturday.

“Ever since I've come here, I've never shied away from this football game,” said Dantonio, whose team has sunk to a 2-5 record and is in the midst of the longest losing streak the program has had since 1991. “I've never said this is not an important game. I've never said, ‘Hey, we'll get to it when we get to it.’ I've always maintained our focus needs to be on that game a little bit more than usual, and that's never going to change.”

Dantonio is 7-2 against the Wolverines, with wins in seven of the last eight. His team lost via a last-second field goal in 2012. In his first game against Michigan as head coach, his Spartans let a 24-14 lead get away in the final seven minutes.

In other games, the Spartans defeated Michigan en route to Big Ten championships in 2010, 2013 and 2015, and a Big Ten divisional title in 2011.

He's quite close to being 9-0 against the Wolverines. His teams often play their best game of the year, to that point in the season, when they take the field against Michigan.

“The reality of it is when we've won, you feel good about it, great about it,” Dantonio said. “When you've lost, I don't care if you lose by two points, you don't feel as good. When you've been up by 10 with seven minutes to go and you lose, you don't feel very good. That's just the nature of it, and you put a lot of preparation into it, just like you do into every football game. This one maybe just is a little bit more because it's in state and it's a rivalry game and because it means so much more maybe to not just our fans but maybe to the players who have played in it in the past and the overall general feeling that we have for each other, that sense of love.”

Dantonio drew laughter from media with that last comment about love. That’s a word that isn’t usually used in describing this hateful rivalry.

Dantonio has said in the past that he bears a “black mark on his soul” for Michigan, dating back to his days as an assistant at MSU from 1995 to 2000, and as defensive coordinator at Ohio State. But Dantonio seemed to express some genuine respect for the way Michigan has built its current juggernaut.

The Wolverines are 7-0, ranked No. 2 in the nation, behind only No. 1 Alabama, the defending national champion.

Alabama pounded Michigan State 38-0 in the College Football Playoff semifinal last year in Dallas.

Alabama is regarded as the gold standard of college football, especially on defense. But Michigan’s defense ranks ahead of the Crimson Tide’s at this point in the season.

Of course, Alabama and Michigan haven’t played the same opponents, but the Wolverines rank ahead of the Tide in scoring defense and total defense. In fact, Michigan ranks ahead of everyone in those categories, at No. 1.

Alabama ranks No. 7 in the nation in scoring defense and No. 4 in total defense, with a pair of showdown victories over Top 10 opponents Tennessee and Texas A&M.

When asked to compare Michigan’s defense to Alabama’s, Dantonio said:

“I don't think that they're like Alabama, structurally. Their success level is like Alabama's right now, so you have to look to see what you can do, and operate within your system because you can't change a whole system and say, ‘Hey, we're going to call all these new plays.’ That doesn't exist.

“You have to use what you have and look to take advantage of some of the things that they do, and then your players have to beat their players, whether it's in coverage or whether it's running the football or yards after contact or whatever the case.”

Alabama ranks No. 1 in the nation in rush defense. Michigan ranks No. 4 in that category.

“They (Michigan) have been tough to run the ball on, and they were rough to run the ball on last year,” Dantonio said.

Last year, the Spartans were unbeaten and ranked No. 7 in the country when they defeated Michigan, 27-23. But Michigan went into that game as a 7-point underdog, having looked unimpressive in their string of victories.

MSU rose up and registered its best defensive game of the year, to that point, in beating Michigan. The Spartans out-gained Michigan 328-168 and held the Wolverines to 10 first downs.

Neither team had success running the ball last year. Michigan netted 62 yards rushing and Michigan State netted 58.

The Spartans were without All-America center Jack Allen for that game, and first-round draft choice Jack Conklin was just coming back from an injury.

This year, the Spartan offensive line and ground game have been wildly inconsistent, but Michigan State is coming off one of its best performances of the year in that area. One week after attempting only 11 tailback runs against Northwestern while playing behind the softest-looking Spartan o-line of the Dantonio era, Michigan State’s blockers came back strong to pave the way for 270 yards rushing against the Terrapins.

Left tackle Kodi Kieler turned in an excellent game against the Terps on zones and gap plays run to his side of the line. Right guard Brian Allen also turned in one of his better games as a pull guard, finding his targets with quickness and finishing with power.

Redshirt freshman left guard Tyler Higby was effective in double-team blocks, and true freshman right tackle Thiyo Lukusa came off the bench for the second straight week to provide solid work at right tackle.


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Kodi Kieler played his best game of the season at left tackle last week.

The Spartans need to build off of last week’s progress in preparing to face one of college football’s best defensive lines, which is backed up by quick, attacking linebackers and a myriad of pressures and blitzes.

They will be playing against a determined Michigan program that is 2-14 in rivalry games over the last eight years, with head coach Jim Harbaugh 0-2 against Michigan State or Ohio State.

Turning back the Wolverines will begin with some age-old fundamentals.

“We need to be able to run the football with some effectiveness,” Dantonio said. “They've been difficult to score against -- they've got a good defense. They've got a good football team. The challenge is there, there's no question about that.”

In the past, Dantonio has challenged his players to keep their emotions and rage for this game under control all week, until game time. He has advised his players to “keep the lion in the cage,” and then let it out when they get to the field.

Dantonio was asked on Tuesday if the Spartans have that type of caged rage that is capable of taking the team to a higher level of play in this game, but without the penalties that went a long way to costing the Spartans victories at Indiana and Maryland.

“That's something everybody has got to answer for themselves,” Dantonio said. “We speak about those things, just sort of give it a symbol for it.

“But the bottom line is how we play at game time and then how we play on the first play and then how we're playing on the last play, and it's tough. It's not easy. This is a man's game. Playing inside, your defensive tackles, your offensive tackles, your linebackers, it's a physical game. So you've got to be able to maintain that physicality in this type of football game especially because that's who they are, that's who we've tried to be, and so when two people meet like that, it becomes a very physical football game.

“I think it was a very physical football game last year.”

What about this year?

“We have an opportunity to be successful or to play our very best, and that's all we can ask,” Dantonio said. “I don't think our seniors have lost yet (to Michigan), the guys that are four-year seniors. They've won three straight, so I'm sure in the back of their mind, that's something that they look forward to to try and accomplish. But again, sitting and talking about it, it's sort of meaningless; you've got to do it, and this is the challenge.

“Can we win? Yeah, we can win. I firmly believe that. I know none of you do, but that's why I'm coaching.”

The 3-2-1 on the debacle at Maryland

I have some other thoughts and opinions about this game and this team and program and where it's at, but that'll come later.

Right now, after a night game, this is all I had time for tonight:

(Some of it might be painful minutia, but I think there is some closure and clarity in categorizing some of the situations at hand):

https://michiganstate.rivals.com/news/the-3-2-1-on-the-debacle-at-maryland

The 3-2-1 for Maryland Week

The 3-2-1: Maryland Week
Jim Comparoni | Editor

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EAST LANSING - Three things we learned during press interviews on Tuesday, two questions and one prediction:

THREE THINGS WE LEARNED:

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As was the case last week, Mark Dantonio is not going to reveal who the starting quarterback will be for Saturday’s game at Maryland, until just prior to kickoff. But Dantonio liked what he saw in both QBs against Northwestern.

First-time starter Brian Lewerke and former starter Tyler O’Connor each had good moments during Michigan State’s loss to Northwestern on Saturday.

Lewerke completed 12-of-19 passes for 99 yards with 1 TD. He also rushed seven times for 30 yards and was sacked once.

O’Connor had a career-high 281 yards on less than two quarters of work.

“I was impressed with Tyler O’Connor coming back the way he did and maintaining not just his attitude but his composure in that type of situation,” Dantonio said. “That was very positive.”

Lewerke began the game hot, hitting RJ Shelton with a nice touch pass for 33 yards on third down vs. press man-to-man on the first drive. He ended the second drive with a well-timed touch pass to tight end Josiah Price for a 15-yard TD.

“I thought Brian Lewerke gave us a spark,” Dantonio said. “I thought he showed some of the things he could do. I also thought as the game progressed, the game got a little fast for him.

“I thought that did some good things. He did some other things in terms of his progressions and in terms of who he’s reading he’s got to square away. His progression of where he was going with the ball and getting the ball out stalled a little bit and that created some uncomfortable moments for him.”

Dantonio liked Lewerke’s poise.

“I don’t think the moment was too big for him,” Dantonio said during an interview with WXYZ (Detroit) Channel 7's Justin Rose: “I don’t think he panicked in the game at all. I don’t think he was intimidated by the environment or the situation, and that was a big positive.

“I thought he brought excitement to our football team and I think he has a skill set that will allow him to flourish in the future. When that future is: Is it a year? Now? Two years? That’s up to him.”

As for the game at Maryland, Dantonio said of Lewerke: “I would expect Lewerke to play. Does he start or not? He’s in contention.”


2. Dennis Finley has moved from third-string offensive tackle to second-string left guard.

Why & What It Means: Finley is at guard now because Michigan State suddenly has a shortage at the position. David Beedle is out for the Maryland game after sustaining a lower body injury against Northwestern. Beedle was the second-string left guard for that game. There is no word on how long he will be out.

Brandon Clemons, formerly a starting right guard for the Spartans, is listed solely as a defensive tackle, now. He started at DT against Northwestern and has become an important part of the defensive rotation.

Without Beedle and Clemons, and with Kodi Kieler having moved from center to left tackle permanently, the Spartans have three fewer interior offensive linemen than they had at the outset of the season.

Finley fell behind Miguel Machado and true freshman Thiyo Lukusa at right tackle. Finley is trying to come back from a broken leg, which he sustained in October of 2015 against Purdue.

Offensive line coach Mark Staten said two weeks ago that Finley still wasn’t ready to work into the playing group at right tackle, with mental and physical hurdles still need to be cleared.

Now, with Beedle out and Clemons playing defense, the Spartans need Finley at guard. Ready or not.


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Finley, left, and Lukusa in practice.

“Dennis, I think he's to that point,” Dantonio said on Tuesday. “I think he's ready to go. He needs to get confident again, in terms of being able to play at game time, at this level at game time. But he's played before. He's got the experience. We got to get him going.”

My Take: Is Finley ready to respond? Well, he didn’t look bad in the Green-White Game, and that’s the only time any of us muggles have seen him since last October.

He lost weight while rehabbing the leg. In addition to the mental and physical hurdles, will he be strong enough to play guard? He has rarely practiced at that position in the past.

Although he is listed as the second-string left guard, I doubt we’ll see him this week, unless there’s an emergency. As for the dwindling number of available offensive linemen overall, that’s a potential emergency in itself.

Kieler played last week at left tackle despite missing practice on Tuesday and Wednesday. He missed the second half of the BYU game with an upper body injury.

The Spartans played the first four games of the season with four players rotating at the guard/center/guard positions: Kieler, Benny McGowan, Clemons and Brian Allen.

Now, it’s Allen, McGowan and redshirt freshman Tyler Higby inside - and they will now likely have to play every snap, rather than Staten’s preferred rotation.

3. Dantonio likes the early indications of how his players are trying to bounce back from this four-game losing streak.

“Thus far I would say, hey, we're hanging,” Dantonio said. “You got to be a rock to play this game. We've won a ton of games. You have to be a rock in the first place.”

The coaches have been watching.

“We monitor everything, how meetings are, what is the attitude in meetings, what is the attitude in the weight room, in the training room,” Dantonio said. “At every turn it's been a positive thing.

“People have to handle problems. So that's our mindset. That's what we have to do, and that's what we will do.”

TWO QUESTIONS:
1. Did Tyler O’Connor experience a break-through with his performance against Northwestern.

Not only did O’Connor make some good, accurate throws, he seemed to play with a quicker mental RPM. He seemed to go through reads quicker and more decisively than in the past.

MSU needed a spark from O’Connor, and he gave it to them. Despite the terrible loss, O’Connor managed to crack a grin when speaking with teammates in the final seconds of the game. He looks loose and confident for his next outing.

It will be intriguing to see whether the coaches go with the experienced O’Connor to start the road game at Maryland rather than the freshman. However, Dantonio was impressed with Lewerke’s poise, so maybe he thinks he’ll handle things at Maryland without blinking. Meanwhile, O’Connor might be BETTER when coming off the bench with something to prove and little to lose. Maybe that’s the breakthrough.

In terms of making smart reads and pulling the trigger, O’Connor looks more equipped and ready in those categories than he was in his first four starts. O’Connor wasn’t bad against BYU. The offense stalled behind a poor run game against the Cougars.



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Kodi Kieler, Brian Allen and Tyler O'Connor.

That makes two straight games for O’Connor with no major mistakes. He wasn’t bad in the loss at Indiana, leading a game-tying drive in the final minutes of regulation - however he made a couple of costly errors in overtime.

His interception against Northwestern wasn’t a bad one. He heaved it deep on third-and-10 on a play that served as a 50-yard arm punt to the Northwestern 10-yard line. MSU trailed 40-31 at the time, and the time was right to take a deep risk.

O’Connor can prepare for this game against Maryland knowing that the team still needs sharpness out of him, and that there are still things to strive for in 2016.

2. Can the offensive line turn things around?

This area has become the biggest surprise of the season. Coaches expected to be able to pound out a consistent run game against most, if not all, opponents this year. Their terrific ground performance against Notre Dame appears to be an aberration at this point.

MSU rushed for a healthy 175 yards against Indiana, but went away from the run game inadvertently in overtime against the Hoosiers (when O’Connor failed to make the correct read and hand it off on second-and-seven).

Against BYU, Spartan tailbacks rushed for 70 yards on 19 carries (3.68 per).

Against Northwestern, Spartan tailbacks had only 36 yards on 11 rushing attempts (3.2 per carry), believed to be the fewest number of tailback rushing attempts by a Michigan State team in the Dantonio era.

When asked on Sunday night if he expected more from the offensive line at this point in the season, Dantonio said:

“I think six games in you expect more from our entire football team. I don’t know that it’s one particular group of people, and I include coaches in that as well.

“But Kieler was banged up, we’re banged up. We’re banged up as a football team a little bit. Kodi Kieler really didn’t practice much all week. He practiced some on Thursday, so you’ve got to be able to practice and get yourself ready to go in that capacity.

“Moving some different guys around a little bit, playing with a redshirt guard (Higby), and he’s going to be a very good player but the bottom line is they (Northwestern) played square in their gap and maintained their gap integrity, we did not (on defense). This is the second week that we did not.

“Our inability to run the football with any consistency, you get in situations where you have to throw the football. And with a redshirt freshman quarterback, in the second half, we had to throw the ball too much.”

So is there hope they can turn it around?

My Take: They have it in them. But that “it” is wearing down, due to bumps and injuries that have taken place, and the need of a bye week that’s not forthcoming.

Not only does Michigan State have guys playing hurt on the o-line, they are also having to play without being able to rotate many (or any) fresh guys onto the field. And with Michigan and Ohio State coming up in the next few weeks, the bumps and bruises are only going to get worse.

I don’t think the offensive line is inherently bad. But they have lost tread on their tires, and there are no pit stops in sight.

MSU’s decision to go with more shot gun formation vs Northwestern than at any time in the Dantonio era, along with the fewest tailback runs of the Dantonio era, might have been done out of the hopes of preserving their dwindling o-line corps.

Come to think of it, maybe they will force Finley onto the field to help out with the rotation, and see if he can hang. They need some gamers to step up. Higby and Lukusa have been positives. They need more.

Cole Chewins saw some brief time against BYU after Kieler went down, and Chewins made an error or two. But the coaches like his potential. And he was seen, again, taking extra reps after practice on Tuesday, working by himself on his pass set, among other things.

Brian Allen’s Take: “Pass protection, for the most part, I actually thought we were pretty good (against Northwestern). Run blocking wasn’t good. We weren’t moving the ball. We only had 11 carries for like 58 yards or something. It’s hard to call run plays when you’re not doing your job and that’s the offensive line’s job. We just have to run the ball better.”

How?

“Staying lower, playing lower, using your hands better. Northwestern, their interior guys are bigger guys and we knew they were going to be hard to move and you had to use your hands well. You just have to be able to get it done.

“We just have to be able to run the ball better. That’s completely on us. Guys are beat up. Can’t feel sorry for yourself, losing four games in a row. You have to get pissed off or something.

“Just have to figure out a way, and just have an attitude. Maybe that’s part of the problem; you just have to kind of be a dick in there and if you’re not doing that, you’re not going to be able to do your job.”

ONE PREDICTION
1. Josh King is going to have a positive second half of the season.

King became the first defensive end off the bench last weekend, ahead of former starter Evan Jones. Malik McDowell is a new starter at d-end, with Demetrius Cooper at the other end.

King has some snap to him, and he’s being leaned on to play more. I think some good things are ahead for him in the near future, as he learns more about the craft.

Dantonio with some thoughts on King: “The problem right now is sometimes our players aren't playing fast. I watched Josh King, who is going to be a phenomenal player. He's just young. He comes off the edge in the game on Saturday and before he gets hit on a wham block, a block coming back from the tight end, he fixes his helmet in the middle of a play. Well, you can't do that.

“That's just a very small thing. But you have to be able to know what you're doing, play fast, and execute whatever it is, whether it's playing the deep ball, running a route, throwing a route, pass protection. Whatever it is, you've got to be able to do those things at a rapid rate and aggressively. We have to make sure the players have a foundation behind them so our players can know what to do and play fast.

“That's what we need to concentrate on and be fundamentally sound. That's what wins football games, fundamentals.

“Josh will grow. He’ll be a great football player, he’s just got to get better.”
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Paul's wrap from Dantonio's press conference

Interesting quotes in here about dantonio's thoughts about staying the course within the scheme:



Dantonio concerned about bowl streak
Paul Konyndyk | Associate Editor

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Michigan State continues to search for answers amidst a shocking four-game losing streak.

Michigan State (2-4, 0-3) travels to Maryland (4-2, 1-3) looking to halt a four-game losing skid, which has put the Spartans nine-year streak of bowl appearances underMark Dantonio in serious jeopardy for the first time since the 2012 season.

“It's something we've done every year,” said Dantonio of his team’s bowl appearance streak. “We've sort of taken it for granted. I don't think you can obviously take things for granted right now. We're a 2-4 football team. Again, we got to find the inches. We've been able to do that.”

Finding those inches has been difficult this season.

“I was walking through obviously the football facility yesterday,” Dantonio said. “Walked down the hallway where all of our bowl jerseys are hanging that have been won that we've been involved with the last nine years, all the NFL players that have gone on. It just sort of hit me a little bit where we are right now relative to where we've been.

“I think the most important thing to recognize is that wherever we're going, is to try to get back to that point, continue to compete, continue to build into the players in terms of what we're trying to do, concentrate on fundamentals, get our younger players ready to go, along with our older players, same thing.”

Dantonio-coached teams have typically played with a deep chip on their collective shoulder. This group hasn’t displayed the same competitive fire.

“We need to assume that that chip is not there and put it there, I guess, if that's the case,” Dantonio said. “Always sort of thought that we challenged each other, challenged ourselves individually to be our very best at game time. That needs to come out again. But it has to be results oriented, too.”

Regaining a competitive edge and playing with a chip is critical to salvaging the season.

“I know that '09 and '12 were difficult seasons,” Dantonio said. “But at some point in time we turned it a little bit, scrapped. At this point in time we're just going to become a team that's going to scrap. That's my intent. Let's get on with that first. So we'll be all in. We will be all in. That's all I can tell you.”

Scheme isn't the problem on offense
Dantonio dismissed the notion that the structure of Michigan State’s offense was to blame for his team’s struggles during a rebuilding year.

“There are always wrinkles, as I said last week,” Dantonio said. “I guess we could say we run the triple option, maybe Maryland will get ready for that, okay? But you just can't change and overhaul something that you've done, especially if you've been good at it. So what we have done is we have put players in positions to make plays. What we've done is taken relative schemes we use offensively and defensively, we've had tremendous success doing these things.

“So I don't think you go away from what you've been successful at and all of a sudden say, Hey, we're going to change that, that's no longer important, we're going to do these things.”

Moving forward, Dantonio stressed the importance of running the football with tailbacks, something his team did very little in a 54-40 loss to Northwestern last weekend. Running backs Gerald Holmes, LJ Scott, and Madre London accounted for just 11 carries against the Wildcats.

“We needed to be able to run the ball more effectively than we did on Saturday,” Dantonio said. “We have good tailbacks. They need to become a little bit more of our production, I would say. We have to be able to maintain that. That's what we've always done. Not wanting to do what we've always done, but it's been a strength of ours. We have to maintain that that has to reoccur.”

Scott played sparingly against Northwestern due to his struggles in pass-protection.

“He has to protect better in pass situations certainly,” Dantonio said. “Again, I'll go back to what I said earlier. We need to get our tailbacks involved in run and pass. They need to be a bigger part of who we are. They will be inevitably.”

Dantonio indicated that Michigan State's starter at quarterback will be determined in practice this week. Redshirt freshman Brian Lewerke started against Northwestern last weekend, before being pulled in the second half for veteran Tyler O'Connor.

Junior Damion Terry did not play last weekend, but has not been ruled out for this weekend.

"Damion is not out of the mix in terms of playing," Dantonio said. "He had a little hand issue last week. We held him. We went with the other two. We'll see how the practices work out this week. We'll make some determinations as we go, sort of go from there.As far as my speaking to our quarterbacks, that's an in-house thing. I spoke to all of our quarterbacks, make sure everybody was in good shape mentally."

Junior Dennis Finley replaces sophomore David Beedle on the depth chart at guard. Beedle suffered an injury against Northwestern and will not play at Maryland.


Confidence issues on defense?
Defensively, Michigan State needs to regain its confidence, coming off a game in which Northwestern scored 54 points.

“I think it comes down to fundamentals, the way you take on a double-team, the way you take on zone, missing tackles, whatever the case,” Dantonio said. “There's some things there. Maybe there's some structural things, as well. That's why I say this is all inclusive. Maybe there's a little confidence issue when things start moving in one direction.

“We had six three-and-outs on Saturday. The goal, a goal, is five. If you get more than five, you're doing pretty well because it doesn't happen all the time. So we did have a lot of three-and-outs. But when we didn't, things sort of snowballed a little bit. “You have to look at everything. That's what we've done. We'll look at our leadership on the field, as well, how we do things structurally, how we do things on the sideline. We'll look at it all and try and get everything in order.”


Maryland looking to bounce back
After starting the season 4-0, Maryland has lost back to back games against Big Ten opponents under first-year head coach and former Michigan defensive coordinator DJ Durkin.

Recent struggles are attributable to injuries at the quarterback position according to Dantonio.

"On the offensive side of the ball, they've had an injury at quarterback," Dantonio said. "They used a freshman quarterback this last game … I think their wide receivers are talented. They've not thrown the ball as effectively as they wanted to due to injuries, freshman quarterback, a little bit. 4-0 start. They have the makings of a good football team.”

Defensively, Michigan State will prepare for a scheme similar to what they faced when Durkin was the defensive coordinator at Michigan last season.

“You see a lot of press coverage, a lot of different pressures with middle-of-the-field safety,” Dantonio said. “They are going to play a variety of different coverages. They have an extensive nickel package. I think he's got his guys playing hard."

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Is Gerald Holmes The Man at RB? By Rico Cooney

Holmes wants to keep it cranked
Ricardo Cooney | SpartanMag.com

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EAST LANSING - Michigan State hoped to established a go-to feature back weeks ago.

But, through an inconsistent September and a rocky start to October, junior Gerald Holmesseems to be heading not the middle portion of the season as the choice as the workhorse running back.

At least that was the indication last week when he recorded his first start of the season. He also received the biggest workload chunk of his career, carrying the ball 15 times (for 57 yards) compared to three carries (for 9 yards) for LJ Scott and one carry (for 4 yards) for Madre London.

While Scott still holds the edge with a team-leading 70 carries for 311 yards and two touchdowns on the season, while averaging 4.4 yards a carry, Holmes is once again proving himself as reliable option as a tough runner and in pass protection, an area in which Scott struggled earlier this year.

Holmes refuses to enter into a debate as to who should start going forward.

“I don’t even pay attention to it,’’ said Holmes when asked about the weekly depth chart. “I don’t even be knowing that, whether it says ‘OR, OR’ (on the depth chart). However the coaches do things, when they call next man up, you just have to be ready to deal with it.’’


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Holmes enters this week’s Homecoming matchup with 38 carries for 208 yards, a 5.5 yards per carry average and four TDs.

He was the go-to option during Michigan State’s game-tying touchdown drive in the final minutes at Indiana two weeks ago. But the Spartans went to Scott in overtime, although Scott didn’t receive a carry in the extra frame.

“I just look at like I did last year. You just have to have a starter’s mentality,” he said. “When you come here and you’re recruited as a tailback, you’re coming here for a reason, because you’re a good athlete and you’re going to make plays. So I know to just trust my ability and work every week like I am a starter and basically just wait until my name is called.’’

Holmes is eager to do his part to help correct MSU’s course.

“We’ve got to lock in, just key in to our assignments,’’ Holmes said. “Guys who make plays have to make plays. It’s about having confidence for each other.

“A lot of guys who have been here for a while and kind of had that chip on their shoulder the whole time. I feel like now, we’ve kind of lost that chip, especially with the younger guys. I feel like we’ve been bumping our heads around and not really understanding the main things. We’ve got the talent, we’ve got the guys that can make the plays so make sure you just come and commit.’’


PRICE CALLS FOR MORE FOCUS
There’s no doubt that Michigan State’s problems have spread across many areas and categories through the first five games of the season.

The Spartans haven’t blocked consistently well, haven’t run the ball with consistency, have not executed in the passing game, have not been sharp on special teams, have been shaky in the defensive front seven due in part to injuries, and suspect in the secondary, and in the coaching booth when it comes to the success of play calls on offense and defensive scheming.

As a result, the Spartans have been outscored by a margin of 28.3 to 13.6 points a game during its recent skid.

Despite all of those misgivings, members of MSU’s upper class feel like there’s something more they can do to help the team escape this free fall and right the ship for the remainder of the season. Price wants to be part of the corrective process.

“We’ve just got to focus on ourselves because most games we’ve beaten ourselves with penalties, missed assignments, with missed blocks, dropped balls or the bad throw with a missed read or the running back not seeing a hole as far as offensively speaking,” Price said. “That’s what’s killed us as an offense. We moved the ball a lot against a lot of teams but we’ve just shot ourselves in the foot, went backwards on certain drives and just not executed.

“So yes, it always starts with focus, making plays, execute our gameplan and play to the best of our ability and I think everything else will take care of itself.

“I mean, you can point blame at each (other) and everywhere (else) but as a leader on this team, I can say I didn’t do a good enough job because obviously, we are 2-3. So it’s up to me and the other leaders on this team to make everyone understand, especially the young guys, that it’s hard and you have to put in hours and hours and so much work to know the guy that I’m lined up across from. But we’ve got guys that are learning and we’re getting better.”


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Michigan State came into the season hoping to repeat as Big Ten champions. Whether it be an unforeseen downturn in talent, furthered by injuries, or shaky focus, or whatever, Price said the pressure of high expectations haven’t been a factor in MSU’s problems.

“I don’t think it was any added undo pressure (to repeat as conference champions),’’ Price said. “We play football at Michigan State and we’ve won two Big Ten Championships in the last three years, so there’s a lot of pressure on us every season at the start. Yes, it’s been frustrating and it’s been tough (losing these last three games) but that’s life and it’s not always going to go the way you want it to go. So we’ve got to find a way to make the best of this, rally the guys, just come out, and play against Northwestern and try and get a win.’’

Sixth-year senior linebacker Ed Davis said it’s not so much about the athletic ability as it is about the mental aspects of the game.

“I feel like the main thing is just focus, staying focused’’ Davis said. “Not getting down on ourselves if something bad happens. There’s ups and downs in a game and we’ve got to keep our heads focused, keep thinking positive and keep pushing forward. You can’t think about the last plays and what happened because that’s how big plays tend to happen and that’s what happened last game. So we’ve just got to stay focused and stay together.’’

For Price, that mantra started this week as MSU prepared for it’s 3:30 p.m. matchup with the Wildcats.

“As much as we’d like to, we can’t change the past or go back and change anything that’s happened,’’ Price said. “So we’re just going to focus on the future and focus on what’s ahead of us.’’
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